R. Butler
Apr 9 2001, 09:38 AM
We have a profit sharing plan for a sole proprietership. It has always been my understanding that to begin the calculation I start with Net C and then subtract 1/2 SE tax. I have come across a position stating that you should actually take (Net C *.9235) and then subtract 1/2 SE tax. Is this alternative view correct?
Appleby
Apr 9 2001, 10:31 AM
Contributions for Self employed individuals are based on their Net Adjusted Business Income.
This page ,from IRS publication 560, helps to explains how to figure the deduction
http://www.irs.gov/forms_pubs/pubs/p56005.htm
Alos, see "Deduction Limit for Self-Employed Individuals" on the following page
http://www.irs.gov/forms_pubs/pubs/p56004.htm
I hope it helps.
Tom Poje
Apr 10 2001, 06:20 AM
the typical calc I learned would be:
start with
1. Sched C
2. subtract contributions to rank and file
3. multiply by .9235
4. calculate FICA
5. subtract FICA from value in step 2
6. split step between contribution and compensation.
RJM
Apr 19 2001, 07:20 PM
Tom:
In Step 5, don't you subtract 1/2 of FICA from value in Step 2?
Tom Poje
Apr 20 2001, 06:12 AM
yes, that is what I meant.
Rudy
Apr 26 2001, 02:44 PM
As the social security tax rate is 6.2% each for employers and employees, wouldn't the multiplier be .938 (1-.062) instead of .9235 (1-.0765(old rate)).
JAREL
Apr 27 2001, 04:21 PM
The FICA tax rate is the same for employees (6.2% OASDI plus 1.45% Medicare), thus the .9235 multiple. The gross amount is multiplied by this factor to simplify a calculation that will avoid the self employed person from having to pay FICA tax on FICA tax (since in a corporation, the employer pays half and the employee pays half. Mathematically it's not perfect, but that's what the IRS says to do.
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