QUOTE (jpod @ Jan 14 2010, 08:12 AM)

I believe the STD exception refers to "all amounts received" by the 2.5-month deadline , or something like that, rather than a "single payment." In any event, your idea clearly does not work, I am just not sure of the precise explanation (without reviewing the regulation).
1.409A-1(b)(4) (Short term deferrals) provides that "(i) In general. A deferral of compensation does not occur if the plan under which a payment (
as defined in section 1.409A-2(b)(2)) is made [1]
does not provide for a deferred payment and [2] the service provider actually or constructively receives such payment on or before the last day of the applicable 2 1/2 month period... The following fules apply for purposes of this paragraphy (b)(4)(i):...
(F) This paragraph (b)(4)(i) is applied separately to each payment (
as defined in section 1.409A-2(b)(2)) required
to be made under a plan.
(G) If a plan provides for a deferred payment with respect to part of a payment (for example a life annuity or a series of
installment amounts treated as a single payment), the plan provides for a deferred payment with respect to the
entire payment." Emphasis added.
1.409A-2(b)(2)("Definition of payments for purposes of subsequent changes in the time or form of payment) - ...
(ii) Life annuities. - (A) In general.
The entitlement to a life annuity is treated as the entitlement to a single payment
." Emphasis added.
Therefore, if a life annuity is treated as a single payment and, pursuant to its terms, commences within 2.5 months of the end of the employer's fiscal year, then it would seem to qualify as a short term deferral.
However, I can also interpret paragraph (G) as supporting the opposite conclusion. This conclusion is more logical, as the first would provide an opportunity to circumvent the acceleration restrictions in a way that would seem inconsistent with section 409A.
Having typed up this analysis, I am leaning heavily toward the latter conclusion, that commencing a life annuity wtihin the STD period does not qualify as a STD.
Agree?