QUOTE (KS-457 @ Jul 27 2009, 01:59 PM)

If a plan violates 409A and a participant incurs 409A penalties, and then the employer reimburses the penalties, the reimbursement would be taxable income to the participant. Would the reimbursement also be subject to 409A penalties? I thought the answer was yes, but I can find no support for that conclusion.
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Without extensively researching the regulations, I would agree with your conclusion. So long as the right to reimbursement of taxes is not legally binding in the Plan document, you should be fine. Most plans I worked with or drafted include that provision but read that the Employer "may" reimburse participants for taxes in any amount the employer determines. I believe this avoids the issue of the payment of taxes being "deferred compensation" because pursuant to this langauge, the Employer has full discretion whether or not to make the reimbursement and also the amount of that reimbursement.