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TBob
A participant terminates from employment prior to age 59.5 but does not take a distribution from the employer's 401(k) plan. Several years later, the participant becomes disabled and would meet the definition under 72(m)(7). He has requested a lump sum distribution of his 401(k). Assume that none of the other exceptions to the 10% penalty apply to his situation.

Which distribution code should we use on his 1099R? Would we use code 3 for a disability or would we use code 1 since the participant was not disabled at the time of termination. I am inclined to use the code that applies at the time of the distribution rather than the code that applied at the time of the distributable event. Your thoughts?
Nate X
I believe you could argue this either way (his/her situation at the time of payment vs. the reason for the distribution).

However, even if you use code 1, the participant will still be exempt from the 10% penalty.
KateSmithPA
QUOTE (Nate X @ Jun 8 2006, 07:20 PM) *
I believe you could argue this either way (his/her situation at the time of payment vs. the reason for the distribution).

However, even if you use code 1, the participant will still be exempt from the 10% penalty.

KateSmithPA
This is a very old post, but I have the same question.

Participant terminated in 2002 and did not take a distribution (balance greater than $5,000).

In 2010 participant becomes totally disabled and requests a distribution. Is this distribution exempt from the 10% penalty?

Thank you.

Kate Smith
Belgarath
IMHO, yes, the distribution is exempt from the penalty tax. The statute says distribution to an "employee" which the person in your situation clearly isn't, but I don't think you should take a hard line on that basis, since the rest of that section 72(t)(2) refers to "employee" for other exemptions as well - for example, (v) gives the exception to an "employee after separation from service..." and once separated from service the person obviously isn't still an "employee."
masteff
Whether to use code 1 or 3 depends on how sufficient your knowledge of the disability is. For example, at my former job, we only used disability if the person became T&P under our LTD plan (can't remember if we'd have accepted Social Security disablity now that I think about it). Even if you use code 1 on the 1099-R (because of insufficient documentation of the disability), the participant can easily file form 5329. (And I'd generally avoid becoming the arbiter of whether the person is T&P so unless you have someone else's opinion to rely on (like an insurance company or the SSA), I'd go w/ code 1 and not get dragged into making a determination.)
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