I have a client with a PS Plan with a 5/31 year end. Currently the plan's eligibility is Age 21 and six months of service. Entry date is on 6/1 after meeting eligibility.
Employee A, over age 21, was employeed 8/23/04 and should enter the plan on 6/1/05.
Client is wanting to amend his plan's eligibility to Age 21 and One Year of Service with the amendment effective 6/1/04. Will this keep Employee A from entering the plan on 6/1/05? Or since she has not entered the plan yet, will she fall under the new eligibility rules?
Thanks.
JAY21
Apr 25 2005, 12:30 PM
In my opinion she has already satisfied both the age and service condition and is now just waiting the entry date. If she remains employed I would say she enters 6/1/2005.
I also don't see how they can amend the plan retroactive to 6/1/04 for changes that are more restrictive, though a liberalizing amendment (i.e., more generous) applied retroactively would be ok.
WDIK
Apr 25 2005, 12:59 PM
QUOTE (DP @ Apr 25 2005, 11:17 AM)
Currently the plan's eligibility is Age 21 and six months of service. Entry date is on 6/1 after meeting eligibility.
If this information is complete, doesn't it fail to satisfy the requirements of Code Section 410(a)(4)(B)?
R. Butler
Apr 25 2005, 01:42 PM
I have the same question as WDIK, isn't there a problem with 410(a)(4)? Under the facts provided employees may have to wait more than 6 months to enter the plan after meeting statutory age & service requirements.
As a general proposition why couldn't you delay, or possibly even eliminate, an employee's participation status by amending the service requirement?
Bird
Apr 25 2005, 01:48 PM
Statutory service requirement is one year; the plan's 6 months requirement with entry on a single following date should always be OK.
I believe you can amend eligibility after a participant has satisfied the requirements. Do a search on "North Shore Auto" for a similar case.
Blinky the 3-eyed Fish
Apr 25 2005, 01:51 PM
The entry date issue aside, I disagree with the conclusion that you cannot make eligibility more restrictive. There have been other posts on this subject, but basically, eligibility is not a protected right. You could even raise the eligibility requirement after a person has entered the plan. As long as you aren't cutting back a benefit earned, you are fine.
R. Butler
Apr 25 2005, 01:53 PM
QUOTE (Bird @ Apr 25 2005, 02:48 PM)
Statutory service requirement is one year; the plan's 6 months requirement with entry on a single following date should always be OK.
I believe you can amend eligibility after a participant has satisfied the requirements. Do a search on "North Shore Auto" for a similar case.
Its the age. Wouldn't you need 20 1/2 for a single entry date following completion?
Also post indicate amendment would be 1 year with a single entry date following completion. Doesn't that also present a problem?
Bird
Apr 25 2005, 08:56 PM
QUOTE
Its the age. Wouldn't you need 20 1/2 for a single entry date following completion?
Ah, good point. I'm guessing it was really 20 1/2 but we'll have to wait for the original poster to respond.
QUOTE
Also post indicate amendment would be 1 year with a single entry date following completion. Doesn't that also present a problem?
It doesn't say that they are keeping the single entry date but I agree that would be a problem.
Sorry to be so long in responding. The amendment would be Age 21, 1 YOS with dual entry dates.
Thanks for all the responses.
R. Butler
Apr 26 2005, 03:23 PM
I am assuming entry dates would be 06/01 & 12/01.
Based on the facts you've provided I see no reason plan could not be amended & thus have the effect of delaying entry for the employee in question until 12/01.
Yes, the entry dates would be 6/1 and 12/1. Thanks for your response R Butler. That is what I was wanting to hear.
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