chris
Sep 4 2002, 07:45 AM
Participant wants to designate kids from a prior marriage as beneficiaries of his account in a MPPP, however, spouse most likely will not consent. A suggested alternative is to freeze the MPPP and set up a SEP-IRA. Since SEP-IRA's are not subject to the survivor annuity rules, the participant could designate his kids without needing spouse's consent. Clearly, there are marked differences (eg, vesting, etc...) b/t a SEP-IRA arrangement and the MPPP..... Suggestions??
Freeze the money purchase plan? Is this a one-participant plan?
chris
Sep 4 2002, 08:11 AM
No, there are a small number of employees other than the participant in question. He is the sole shareholder of the employer.
mbozek
Sep 4 2002, 10:12 AM
SEPS cannot exclude part time employees who work less than 1000 hours in a year. All employees who have service in 3 of last 5 yrs must participate. Also there is no reallocation of forfeitures in a SEP and no loans. SEP can not invest in LI or collectibles. NO annual reporting, SPDs or fiduciary rules apply to SEPs. Why not give the kids the business if he dies? It is a captial asset and if it has value it can be taxed as CG rate of 20%. Also if kids are under 18 guardian must be appointed to own property they inherit.
chris
Sep 4 2002, 11:15 AM
Kids are adults, but the business is a dental practice. The main objective is to get qual plan monies going forward to the kids and not to the second spouse (by way of the pre-retirement survivor annuity rules). The restrictions/differences b/t the SEP-IRA arrangement and the current MPPP may be acceptable given the objective.
Mary Kay Foss
Sep 4 2002, 12:17 PM
The MPPP could be terminated and rolled to an IRA (no spousal consent for beneficiaries) and then the dentist could start a SIMPLE IRA plan. My clients who have gone from a SEP to a SIMPLE were able to cover fewer employees and get a larger contribution themselves. However, the simplicity of the SEP has many positives especially now with the 25% limitation.
chris
Sep 4 2002, 12:41 PM
But the spouse's consent will be necessary to waive the QJSA option with respect to the MPPP distribution. It is unlikely the spouse will consent.
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