S Loble
Oct 5 2004, 10:39 AM
Top Heavy rules provide that, for purposes of determining whether a plan is top-heavy, you must exclude the account of any non-key employee if that employee was a key employee in any prior plan year.
What if an employee is a key employee (a partner), then is TERMINATED AND RE-HIRED as an of-counsel non-key employee. Can we consider the re-hired employee a non-key employee and consider their account for purposes of top-heavy testing?
The ability to do this would turn our 68% top heavy plan into an under-60% non-top heavy plan!
rcline46
Oct 5 2004, 10:51 AM
We need more details - when was the partner bought out/liquidated and when were they rehired?
Also need to know their age, as I think I remember that if you were ever a Key employee after a certain age (55) you would always be Key.
Any familial relationships that might trigger being Key?
S Loble
Oct 5 2004, 11:10 AM
Here are more details:
I'm not sure whether partner is over age 55--let's assume he is (does that really make a difference?)
He was a partner (and a key employee) prior to 2002. As of 1/1/02, he became an of-counsel W-2 employee. He still has the same account under the profit-sharing plan (he did not take a distribution, although he could have on termination I presume).
I hope this helps.
Tom Poje
Oct 5 2004, 12:34 PM
it does not sound like he really terminated, rather switched 'jobs'.
It sounds like he would simply be a 'former key' and therefore excluded entirely.
S Loble
Oct 5 2004, 04:51 PM
Thanks, thats what we suspected and feared.
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