PAL100759
Jan 9 2004, 12:41 PM
Is there software or some other type of service that can provide me with the rate of return for a handful of mutual funds for a specific period of time. I have the ticker symbols of the funds involved and need to get what the fund returns were during the period in which the plan had late contributions. The contributions have been deposited already. I intend to use the highest rate of return in order to complete the PT correction. Thanks.
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Harwood
Jan 9 2004, 12:53 PM
How about looking at participants in the plan who had no contributions or withdrawals during the period in question, and see what their actual rate-of-return was for those funds?
PAL100759
Jan 12 2004, 09:36 AM
The plan's recordkeeper in a TPA who is not very helpful - perhaps because this is a plan that we acquired and will eventually merge into one of our larger plan (if we can ever get this cleaned up).
For example, they said that calculating these earnings would be very expensive because they had to do it person by person. Keep in mind that it's one contribution and we have the date the contribution should have been deposited, the date it actually was deposited, and a spread sheet with each person and the amount. When I suggested that we use the highest fund return for the period instead of individual rates of return, they seemed clueless as to what I was talking about! I've been trying to get this corrected for months and at this point, I'm thinking it would be easier for us to come up with the earnings and have the TPA post it. I just need to get the fund returns.
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Harwood
Jan 12 2004, 12:22 PM
There is monthly Principia diskette from Morningstar which has return information for a number of different periods. Phone: 800-735-0700 or try MorningstarAdvisor.com
Some free websites; data definitely is not always accurate
http://quicktake.morningstar.com/Fund/Snap...PTRIX&hsection=http://www.estrong.com/strongweb/strong/js...fo/qr/index.jsphttp://bloomberg.com/The trouble with all sources is that they are inflexible regarding their time periods. All are based upon a month end date and do not have all possible monthly time periods.
Bloomberg.com used to have Total Return Calculator where you could put in the dates. It is gone now - they want you to buy Bloomberg Professional, which is more than $1,000 per month. I have yet to find another website where you can put in the beginning and ending dates for return calculations.
PAL100759
Jan 13 2004, 09:59 AM
Thanks!
maverick
Jan 13 2004, 01:36 PM
How about comparing unit prices on the two days to get the return?
Hopefully capital gains weren't paid in between.
You can get daily prices on yahoo:
http://chart.yahoo.com/t?s=FNPEX&g=d
WDIK
Jan 13 2004, 03:31 PM
I like to use
Big Charts.
PAL100759
Jan 21 2004, 05:02 PM
WOW!!! Looks great WDIK - Thanks.
Harwood
Jan 21 2004, 05:24 PM
WDIK - I don't see how to get "Total Return" over a period of time - including dividends - only changes in unit prices.
WDIK
Jan 21 2004, 06:59 PM
Harwood:
I don't think that this site has a calculation of total return including dividends, unless they have added that under their "Advanced Tools" for those who sign up (i.e. are willing to pay for it), which I have not.
However, the site does list some dividend information under the stock's "profile" link. There is also a link on the "profile" page for "more features," which includes a daily earnings calendar. Also, when you chart the stock you have the option of including symbols that show the timing of dividends and changes in earnings.
It's not a perfect solution, but I have found it extremely useful when I can't seem to get complete information from another source.
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